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- Greetings.
-
- Thought I would throw my two cents worth on the table about this
- little arguement on the Chip set in the Miggie:
-
- It started with Schitso:
- > I just wanted to clear this up. ECS has up to 2MB chip ram. Most
- > machines only came with hardware to support 1MB though. My 3000
- > came with 2MB chip ram. If you got a DKB megachip or similar
- > product you can have 2MB on both your 2000 and 500. As far as I
- > know, the only ECS machines capable of 2MB without such extra
- > hardware were the A500+, A600(?), and A3000. I could be wrong about
- > those, but my ECS A3000 definately has 2MB chip and 14MB fast.
-
- I own and program on my 3000 as well. When I got mine, it came with
- the 2M Agnus in it, only with 1M currnetly installed (and this is
- still the case). I still have yet to add an extra 1M (even though
- I've seriously considered it. If anyone knows, btw, where I could
- locate some extra memory for it, mail me. I cannot recall at the
- moment what type of memory it needs).
-
- Anyhow, Giark retorted:
- > I just wanted to clear this up. ECS has up to 2MB chip ram.
-
- No, it does not. The 3000, which is actually AGA without the new
- display modes, has 2 Megs of chip. ECS machines do not. The DKB
- megachip will expand your CHIP memory to 2 megs, true, but I know
- of no one who has one.
-
- > Most machines only came with hardware to support 1MB though.
- Because that's what ECS is.
-
- > My 3000 came with 2MB chip ram.
- Which is not real ECS. It's a hybrid.
-
- [about the Megachip]
- All those machines were the ECS hybrid machines.
- Normal ECS machines don't have 2meg chip capability.
-
- > The 3000 was the first machine to introduce ECS. It was years later
- > that AGA was produced in the 4000. Are you thinking about OCS?
-
- Obviously he was. Now, here's Schitso's reply to Giark's retort
- (with my own comments included and ">>" is Giark, ">" is Schitso)..
-
- >> All those machines were the ECS hybrid machines. Normal ECS
- >> machines don't have 2meg chip capability.
-
- > OCS- Original Chip Set- Resolutions 320x200-640x400
- > upto 512k chip, used in A1000, early A500, A2000
-
- I've heard it also "Old", too.
-
- > ECS- Enhanced Chip Set- Resolutions as OCS plus the productivity
- > modes, upto 2 megs chip ram, used in later A500, A2000, A500+, A600,
- > CDTV, introduced in the A3000. ECS could be seen as a kind of hybrid
- > of OCS and AGA.
-
- That last comment: "ECS could be seen as a kind of hybrid of OCS and
- AGA." can be true, it can be seen as one, but its NOT. ECS is a steup
- up from OCS and a steup below AGA.
-
- > AGA- Advanced Graphics Archetecture-
- > ECS modes plus all the good stuff! used in A1200,A4000,CD32
-
- > There are both 1MB and 2MB capable ECS Agnus chips. Both can use
- > less than the maximum. Alot of the A500's with only 512k really have
- > an ECS Agnus. The ECS Denice is not required for 1MB chip ram, only
- > for the ECS screen modes.
-
- > The reason an A2000, or A500 can't get 2MB of chip ram is that the
- > motherboards were designed before ECS. There aren't enough address
- > lines on the board to use more than 1MB of chip ram. The MagaChip
- > puts the extra chip ram on a board with a 2MB capable Agnus chip.
-
- >From my understanding of the Chipset, this is true.
-
- > I'm not trying to be a d*ck..
- Neither am I..
-
- > I'm just trying to clear up why he said ECS.:) The people with OCS
- > can't play the game because they CAN'T get 2 megs of chip ram.
-
- My thoughts exactly. It's also true.
-
- Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@hotmail.com, work: parrottsoft@geocities.com
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